Fauci Questioned, a Summary
During a heated House hearing on Monday, Dr. Anthony Fauci was questioned by members of Congress about his decisions and statements made during the COVID-19 pandemic. This included issues on mandatory vaccinations, internet censorship, mask mandates, social distancing, and other policies that were deeply divisive.
Fauci grilled on COVID response Dr. Anthony Fauci took a hearing before Congress yesterday, you might have seen some of the clips because this were everywhere. Dr. Fauci was grilled on just about every major topic of the pandemic and policy, including virus origins, including social distancing and mask mandates, in the allegations that well, he had nothing to base that on. Apparently the science was only him declaring he was science and several other accusations. Of course, I wanna go into it. Fauci is the former Director of the National Institutes of Health to allergy and infectious disease , and became the US face of government recommendations on Covid policies under both Trump and then later under Biden. He was one of the main advisors on the stuff remember. Now, yesterday‘s hearing was the first time that Fauci publicly testified before Congress since he retired. He’s done some closed door ones. At the start Anthony Fauci talked about his role in the pandemic response and then took time to go and reject a lot of the accusations against him. I want to deep dive with y’all and let me show you this first, … Fauci: Thank you for the opportunity to testify. Prior to my retirement from federal service in December 2022, I had been at the NIH for 54 years. Director of NIAID for more than 38 years in those post that was deeply involved in the scientific and public health response to several infectious diseases, outbreaks, including HIV aids, pandemic, flu, Ebola, and Zika and so under my leadership we will well position to respond to COVID-19 for at least two decades prior to the Covid outbreak we had and I had invested billions of dollars in research on mRNA technology and imaging design, both of which led to the swift development of Covid vaccines less than 11 months after the identification of this new virus, safe and highly effective vaccines widely available and unprecedented accomplishment in the history of vaccine that save tens of millions of lives worldwide. JOSHUA: Remember the vaccine roll out was part of the Trump policy called Operation Warp Speed. Donald Trump still thinks he did a good thing with that where they fast tracked the release of the vaccines. And a lot of critics know that they Trump pushed the vaccines. Trump has not apologized for that. Trump you know again rapidly pushed it through the approval process. Remember the one of the big controversy is that the vaccines claims on the effectiveness, the safety and mostly the vaccine mandates. The mandates were not a Trump policy. In fact, Trump wanted to have other options on the table: - you could take ivermectin - you can take hydroxychloroquine - you can take other stuff. - then they accused him of saying that he wanted to like inject people bleach, the narrative was fake, they made it up and took it out of context. But, based on this, of course the big issue with the vaccines was they said it was safe and effective, 100% safe and effective, turns out it was not. And also they tried forcing people to take it and a lot of people lost their jobs because of that. Many people felt pressured and many people now have vaccine injuries. Fauci tends to get blamed for a lot of that because he was the public face of it. He also blamed for the online censorship because the government was working with different social media sites to censor anything that deviated from their main narratives. So; - if you question the efficacy the vaccines - if you question lock down, - if you questioned the mask mandates, - if you said did these things don’t actually work, - you could be censored. I experienced that personally, because I’ve been a critic of all of these things from the get-go. Now you know even Covid origins, and I pointed to the Wuhan lab at the Wuhan Institute of virology. I think you know we showed pretty solid evidence which has passed the test of time, but of course I was massively censored for doing that. As time has passed, we see frankly, we got everything right. But, of course, Fauci , a lot of the policies went through Him, even if he denies that, he was the one who actually made them, and of course, you know the big one being the lock down . Anthony Fauci claims that he kept an open mind on the possibility the COVID-19 emerged from the Wuhan lab. He was criticized on that because frankly, they show some of his own communications that suggest otherwise. There’s the issue as well, importantly, he denies that he bribed people with grant money to come to the conclusion that COVID-19 had a natural origin. I remember the proximal origins paper, he was discussing with the authors in a very infamous conversation, where the accusation is that he had the influence them to get rid of the possibility t this thing emerged from the Wuhan lab. The big belief in that was that his organization was working through Eco health Alliance, and others, and they were doing a legal research, gain of function and otherwise, through proxies in China and were misspelling words and using other back door issues to kind of get around the possibility of investigation and skirt some of the legal issues around that. That’s one of the big accusations, he denies it. Now remember, this has been controversial since we still haven’t been showing strong evidence as well of a natural origin. As I’ve been saying from the get-go, step one in a pandemic is where did it came from. Does anybody know, they say it’s natural origin? What is the origin? - They said it was that soup, that was fake. - They said it was bats. We now know it wasn’t. - They said it was penguins. We know that they made that up - where it come from we don’t know and, - remember the virus sequence was released publicly that the Chinese communist party disappeared the scientists who released it and, - then all the western science journals that had published things on it, they deleted their articles. Interesting right? You actually have to wonder, are they trying to not tell us where the virus came from? - And of course, as evidence has increasingly pointed, if not to man-made origins at the very least to a natural virus or an altered virus that leaked from the lab. It seems that that is now the main narrative. Right now, there’s also still a large scale system that censors people pointing out issues like this. In fact, if you’re watching on YouTube, but they often put up like a World Health Organization alert at the bottom of any video that talks about COVID-19. They have this integrated system. I’d say I wouldn’t just blame Fauci for this. I’d say it’s the World Health Organization, I’d say the Chinese Communist Party ,because they are again the WHO sock puppet. And of course, the world was following the recommendations of the WHO, which was taken its orders from China, as were starting to see. Fauci also denied covering up the possibility of a lab leak, some documents and conversations he had contradict that claim, but he says that he didn’t try to cover it up. And Fauci also distanced himself from Eco Health Alliance, Peter Dick with Eco Health, Alliance, and other issues like gain of function. In China that they were funding it or doing things through backdoor channels. Again, Fauci is denying these things. He’s being accused of them, but that’s his stance. And, he also said the allegations of conducting business using a personal email and during the hearing he even through some of his colleagues under the bus suggesting that he didn’t, that they did something unethical when they were doing that. During the hearing it did come out that somebody, somewhere, is lying. Somebody lied in front of Congress and probably committed a crime by doing that and they’re starting to throw each other under the bus. With this said the hearing was pretty heated as you would expect. During the House hearing on Monday June 3rd, Dr. Anthony Fauci was questioned by members of Congress about his decisions and his statements, and yes, some of his recommendations that became a law in this country or were made during the COVID-19 pandemic and this included issues on mandatory vaccinations, the ones that some people lost their jobs for or threatened to lose their jobs for or maybe your kids were forced to take, Internet censorship, whereby they were suppressing anything that went against what they were saying. The mask mandates, the social distancing, things, we find out, had no scientific basis. And other policies that were incredibly devisive in this country and frankly made our lives a living hell for good while. Now representative. Jim Jordan, focused on whether there was censorship involved in suppressing the lab leak theory. JIM JORDAN: Do you agree that there was a push to downplay the lab leak theory? FAUCI: Not on my part! JIM JORDAN: Really, really, wow, wow. I think most of the country find that amazing … FAUCI: look at the fact that I’ve kept an open mind throughout the entire process … JOSHUA:You remember, Trump and others in his administration, were saying that they had seen evidence that COVID-19 came from the laboratory. And Fauci, he was one of the main voices saying otherwise. Just as a reminder, let me actually show you the news articles from four years ago when all of this was happening: - this is a clip from May 2020, National Geographic; ABC News reporting: - Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species. Fauci added, he does not believe another theory that the virus occurred naturally, but was accidentally released into the public from a lab. And telling Nat Geo that means it was in the wild to begin with. That’s why I don’t get what you’re talking about. iI comes after both President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo link the virus to a lab without providing evidence. Q of Trump: At this point have you seen anything that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan institute was the origin changed this virus? Trump: Yes, I have. JOSHUA: Look, Fauci has since changed his stance, Testifying in the closed hearing just a few months ago, the coronavirus committee chair representative Brad ones scrap, a Republican from Ohio, said that Fauci was now acknowledging that it was not a conspiracy theory to say that COVID-19 leaked from the lab. In fact, he’s keeping that narrative now, as well, And that’s of course problematic though, given that Fauci is also accused of deterring researchers from looking into a possible lab leak origin of COVID-19. You might remember the proximal origins paper, in the journal Nature, they claim COVID-19 had a natural origin. That paper was used to censor and attack anybody who claimed otherwise, including myself in fact. And, the allegations of a conference called the Fauci had with the paper’s authors, altering their conclusion to deny a lab leak. Let me show you the hill from a few months ago on why that’s so important, watch - THE HILL, Robby’s Radar, Jan, 2024: - Fauci was then head of NIAD, the national issues of allergy and infectious diseases, and also Frances Collins, then Director of the National Institutes of health, participated in a conference call with the authors of that paper whose initial openness to lab explanation change significantly prior to its publication of the proximal origins paper and ultimately ruled out a lab league, as not, just unlikely, the phrasing used in an early draft of the paper, but improbable. More recently, Fauci has contended that he always remained open to the idea of a lab leak, but was persuaded by scientific arguments, including those in the proximal origins paper that a natural spill over was more likely. JOSHUA: All of this brings us back to yesterday‘s hearing. Representative Jim Jordan accused Fauci, not only of changing his views on the lab origins theory, but even suggest the Fauci’s stance helped create a censorship system under the Biden Administration on anybody who claimed otherwise. Fauci denied he had any part in that, but of course, tied into the creation of the proximal origins paper and the affect it had, and of course, we know about who was involved in this conversations. Fauci was accused of playing a role in keeping out voices that would’ve concluded otherwise. in fact, one of the individuals is even making accusations against Fauci saying that Fauci kept him out of that call they would’ve possibly concluded the possibility that COVID-19 came from the lab leak, leading people to believe Fauci to be accused of preventing that from happening, preventing that research for being shown, and, there were some back-and-forth on this. Let me show you how the conversation went, watch. JIM JORDAN: Who is Robert Redfield? Dr. Robert Redfield, former Director of the CDC, right? And he was on and he was also on the coronavirus task force, is that accurate? FAUCI: He was also a member of the Coronavirus task Force, that is correct? JIM JORDAN: Here’s what he said to this committee. Redfield said that Fauci and Collins left him out because Redfield suspected that the Coronavirus had leaked from the Chinese lab, is that accurate? FAUCI: Well he said that, but that’s not true. That is incorrect congressman. JIM JORDAN: Dr. Redfield lied to the committee when he said that….? FAUCI: …that, I kept him out, that is an incorrect statement. The roster was only … JIM JORDAN: Was Dr. Redfield in the conference call on February 1. when you had Mr. Anderson & Dr Gary on that call? FAUCI: He was not in the conference call and it was put together by Jeremy Farah , so no one kept him out. He said he felt he was kept out because …. do you want me to finish? JIM JORDAN: Yes … I just can’t imagine why he wasn’t on that call? FAUCI: …the call was arranged by Jeremy Farah, you should ask him. JOSHUA: Another key accusation going around was that Anthony Fauci pushed the mask mandates and the social distancing guidelines. You might remember: - if you were standing in line at the grocery store you had to stand 6 feet apart. - if you were standing in line of the bank, 6 feet apart - if you were flying on an airplane you had to wear a face mask - if your kids were in school they had to wear face masks. - If you were at a job they made you wear a face mask and those things were miserable. It turns out that there was no scientific basis for any of that. It was just something that happened apparently, the direct quote from Fauci, it just happened. Given that circumstance of course, and not only do they not work, but they were passed without any kind of scientific basis. Just before the hearing the House Select sub-committee on the coronavirus pandemic, released a transcript from a closed two day interview with Anthony Fauci and it had some pretty shocking revelations on how those mandates come about. Let me show you what they had, first off on social distancing. This is what it said question, do you recall when discussions regarding at least a 6 foot threshold began? And the answer from Fauci, the 6 foot in the school? Question, 6 foot overall I mean, 6 foot was applied to businesses? answer yeah. Question, it was applied in schools. It was applied here in Congress. At least how the messaging was applied. Was that 6 foot distancing the distance that you needed to be … answer, you know, I don’t recall it just sort of appeared. I don’t recall like a discussion of whether it should be five or six or whatever it was just at 6 foot is … Question, did you see any studies that supported 6 feet? Answer, I was not aware of studies that in fact, they’ll be a very difficult study to do. Fauci went on to say that the didn’t remember any supporting evidence for wearing face masks. He knew there were conflicting studies. I think it is still up in the air. Remember ‘he is the science’. Fauci pushed off the responsibility saying ‘that wasn’t me’, that was someone else. Remember what they and the WHO were pushing were CCP policies & models. The WHO could not proof independence fro the CCP. This was all used to alter the election laws in 2020. Vaccine Mandates. he was also questioned on his push for vaccine mandates and he was questioned about NIH scientist notably getting $710 million in royalties from drug makers. Look, imagine folks you’re part of the body mandating that people have to take a drug. You are profiting off the drug. You’re forcing people to make therefore the policies you’re pushing are financially benefiting yourself. We saw this with the shares of many of these companies manufacturing the mandated products because everybody was kind of forced to take them. Now, this is representative Rich McCormick Republican from Georgia on this and he played a recording where Anthony Fauci previously explained the policy watch … McCormick: You gave his part of an audiobook written by Michael Spector, that you believed institutions should make it hard for people to live their lives so they feel pressured to take vaccinations. Run the clip on that please. Spector question to Fauci: What do you think can be done about it? I have to say that I don’t see a solution than some sort of mandatory vaccination. I know federal officials don’t like to use that term. FAUCI Answer: Once people feel empowered legally, you’re going to see schools, universities and colleges that are going to say if you want to come to this school buddy, you are going to get vaccinated, young lady you are going to get vaccinated. Corporations, like Amazon & Facebook are going to say if you want to work for us you have t4oget vaccinated. And it’s been proven, when you make it difficult for people in the lives, they lose their ideological bullshit and they get vaccinated, McCormick: thank you. Are all exceptions to COVID vaccinations ideological bullshit Dr. Fauci? FAUCI: no they’re not and thats Not what I was referring to. JOSHUA: In addition to this, there were other parts of the vaccine mandates where they poured money into the drug companies as we just talked about and NIH scientist we’re getting royalties tied in with that money from it. Here’s a follow up from Rep Marjorie Taylor Green about that? GREEN: let’s also talk a little bit further about the type of science that you represent. Headline read: NIH scientist made $710, million in royalties from drug makers fact that’s been hidden. Let’s talk about is it right for scientist and doctors getting paid by the American people government taxpayer paychecks to get patents, millions and hundreds of millions of dollars and royalty fees, especially when the NIH and these government agencies, most powerful agencies in our country, are recommending medical suggestions and advice and making up guidelines. JOSHUA: now, notably, after Marjorie Taylor Green shows that and goes over that and goes on to criticize Fauci directly, she says she refuses to call him a doctor. She gets criticized by one of the Democrats, they put it on hold briefly, says that basically she has to call him a doctor because that’s his title. She can’t call him Mr. She continues and then she went on to show photos of Dr. Fauci apparently not practicing social distancing or wearing a face mask when he was requiring others to do it when he was pushing for others to do it. Now, Fauci, for his part, he noted the backlash that he and his family have been facing. That he kind of broke into tears a little bit while he was talking noted that his three daughters have been harassed ,his wife has been harassed, he said that he’s received credible death threats, including some arrests have been made, allegedly according to him, because people were moving on those threats to possibly try to kill him. He noted that because of the way all this is happened he gets blamed for a family, for Covid or for the vaccines or whatever else because he’s kind of become the face of it and he says that his life has been horrible frankly because of that. That is also the backlash where people noted that their own lives and their own families were thrown in disarray by the policies he pushed. Parents fired from their jobs, unable to care for their kids because they refused to take a vaccine mandate. Members of military service who lost their pensions who lost their retirement because they were fired or dishonorably discharged because they refused to take the mandates. People who took the vaccines because they were forced to or told it’s 100% safe and effective and they suffered major side effects because of it. It is a lot of cases unfortunately kids who were forced to wear face masks in schools and the list goes on. It’s a very complicated issue because Fauci was not likely responsible for this stuff, is putting it out there of course it was a dangerous and unfortunate circumstance. We were in as a country, but of course she’s being accused of making a lot of misleading statements, pushing things that scientific backing and notably attacking Americans, who were against what he was doing it’s a very complicated issue. I think we will see a lot more coming out on … around what we now know are fake scientific claims. Things were done under the guize of science, but were not science. now look but that said look I’m against death threats.
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